lizardx - 5:27 pm on Oct 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

So use of this tool will out you as an SEO to Google. Some have suggested that's really the whole point of Penguin - to get SEOs to show their hand by trying to fix the problems from an anti-SEO algo.

I don't think this follows at all. I do however think that google is admitting without saying the words that negative seo works, which of course it has to with Penguin, at least for a certain type of site that is lacking in high quality organic type inbounds.

And I think in a sense, it also lets people who naively hired one of those constant 'hi we are an seo firm in India and we can rank you...' firms, who then proceeded to generate tons of boilerplate pages/links/anchor texts, anyway, it lets those people get rid of the damage and try to start over. I don't see this as an impossible component of such a tool.

Not a google fan or non fan, but I can see valid reasons for them using such a tool, and once a site is damaged, which is of course the only time you should be using such repair techniques I think, why not just repair it and wait.

Remember the delay filters they have though, I view all attempts at repair as very long term, ie, I'm not looking for any changes within a month or 4, just long term to eventually get a site back in higher rankings for the target key words.

I enjoy knowing that we were guilty, and that the google panda/penguin body blows hit us exactly as intended, a fact I remind my employer of routinely when he forgets or is tempted to try the same thing again. In fact, no matter how fine tuned the penguin/panda adjustments were, our site got hit, lol, so I believe we have the poster child for a real site that has tons of panda and penguin triggers. We're removing them as time goes on, it is afterall a real site, just with a lot of mistakes, and I think that's sort of what Google has in mind, our stuff wasn't black hat in general, just gray/borderline, like most people were doing, and it's reasonable to allow people to go, ok, fine, we'll stop, and fix it, and return this old site/domain to proper methods. Google does after all like old sites, still.

Party on.