Martin_Ice_Web - 7:19 am on Oct 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

What's the plan now? I need some other thoughts on this right now.

We have been hit hard with Juli 24 panda update and did a complete rework, redesign, added new fresh content+ pictures and rewriting. After the anti domain spamming update and the last panda update things were going better. We had sales and a lot of traffic. Then on 25.Sept. somthing has been changed again. Traffic got total unrelated, sales are very down. With the last update
we are now getting stupid traffic.
My point is, that we did so many things and nothing, realy nothing has helped. My opinion is that whenever a domain gets hit by panda this domain is burned.
As i am not saying we are the best in our niche but we did our amount to have the "right" to be there. We are now outranked by 6 word pages with very low choices and pages that i won´t trust as a user.
Brands are now favior and the can do want they want, even duplicate content on subdomains will not hurt them.

If this goint further google will demote itself and will not play a big role in the future. 90% of the real quality sites have been vanished and google has become so big because they found this pages, now that they have took away their bred they will surely getting a bit smaller.

I did not found one who says yes we are back. Back to our question -> Start a new domain with new content.