shallow - 6:08 pm on Sep 26, 2012 (gmt 0)

brinked wrote: What everyone else has put aside are all the hundreds of other factors that take a part in producing the serp's. We only hear about panda and penguin now so every webmaster who does not rank well is only attributing their failures to these 2 updates when realistically many have nothing to do with panda and penguin. "oh my site lost rankings, must be panda"

In my case, it has always been related to Panda!

I'm not a webmaster but a site owner, and except for adding articles and and a few images in content, I do not have the skills to work on my site. I use a web developer.

I woke up one day to learn that suddenly, without warning, my traffic and income were almost 50% lower than the days, weeks and months before. I knew something had to be going on. I came to these forums and learned about Panda.

It took me years to build up my site and traffic to it, then in one day half is gone.

Subsequent drops got me over here quickly again. Each time I learned there had been a Panda tweak the day or two before.