tedster - 10:02 pm on Sep 11, 2012 (gmt 0)

a lot of chatter about that very exact thing

There used to be a lot of chatter about buying Adwords to increase your organic rankings, too. The problem I see with both Panda and Penguin chatter is that people have become indiscriminate about how they use those names. Sometimes it seems as if they get used for whole Google algorithm.

At the same time, Google did mention something about integrating Panda more tightly into the regular algorithm. But after all, Panda has been seeing a lot of data refreshes these past weeks - officially announced. I'm still pretty convinced that it takes at least a data refresh to see a Panda recovery.