Martin_Ice_Web - 2:00 pm on Sep 26, 2012 (gmt 0)

ohno, i know what you mean and i although think that a shareholder profit driven business is not willing to give money away. You can see that in introducing the new shopping fees or the fess for using the google maps. It is also clear the a "little" factor in ranking is adwords earnings. But as i stated before, i think the rules are new and old site with panda sitting on them are not going to get back until something changes. It is to long now for them to get back.
There is truly some false positives and i see all the things like traffice shapping, throtteling and even sales throtteling like some others here. The heck, i told it my wife, she was rolling her eyes and said she canīt believe it because it would be to conspiratorial. I still think goog found a way to get some more data then we know.
But this is the point once you have this opportunity you use it.

But i like more the idea that user metric is only the verification of the algo that is certainly base upon backlinks. Whereas this algo seems to have some severe problems. As crobb305 is observing the rotation of some sites I think this is the reset of "user metrics confirmation". All pandalized sites have this but on a different day and i a more or less heavy way. To escape from this you have to find claaarkys threshold. Finaly something tedster was talking about shallow or low content was something that hit me like a train, itīs smattering what we are adding as new content, because you canīt push something up that canīt be pushed. And there is already a non pandalized site on the top with the targeted content. The key is to invent the wheel new.