jinxed - 6:13 am on Jun 29, 2012 (gmt 0)
I think its important to mention here that when people look at pages and they perceive them as "bad", the first reaction might be to "pad out the page" and simply "add more" to it to keep them on the site/page longer.
Believe me, in my opinion this is the biggest factor in Panda - and only adds to the shallow content identifiers. More and more and more of the same isn't what the users want.
In my case, on one site, I've improved traffic levels (way up from pre-Panda 1.2) by removing paragraphs of text - and showing the information in a different way. Time on page is less - traffic is up (and users are happy).