brinked - 4:29 am on May 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

Thanks, brinked. The idea that this is a loss of previously valued links instead of a true penalty is an important distinction!

I think there is more to panda than just a devaluation of links. If you depend on spammy blog networks for all your links, it is likely all those links are now gone.

I can not comment on on site penguin factors yet because I do not have much to go by. Being de-indexed from google is indeed a penalty, as is when a page loses rankings because of the content that page has and links not being a factor.

Google renamed it the web spam update which makes more sense than over optimization. Websites and blog networks that are made for the sold purpose of links seem to be the target for penguin. This holds true for link directories.

The previous thread was in fact misleading but I understood what he meant. He was probably going by what he was personally seeing in that about half of the directories he had links from were de-indexed.

I am seeing the low quality directories are gone, which is awesome.

I am personally starting to like the penguin more and more. I avoided these types of links for a long time knowing there was just too much risk involved.

[edited by: tedster at 4:32 am (utc) on May 29, 2012]
[edit reason] fixed my own typo in the quote box [/edit]