TypicalSurfer - 1:42 pm on Dec 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

>> 2002 conspiracy theory

Google has publicly stated via their CEO that their game has changed, things like knowledge graph, paid shopping, "getting closer to the action", even MC has said that ads have value in terms of relevance and quality, this is a far cry from the google of 2002.

To beat down others that recognize that the ground has shifted is at least being out of touch, I won't speculate any further than that but it's certainly not a credible notion to be floating, that google is the pure search engine that it was a decade ago. This is supposedly a webmaster forum not the Google Defense League.

I've seen zombie stuff and throttling but backdraft and a few others are doing well enough with the description of the phenomena that I don't feel a need to add onto it. I'm not alone.

One question on the mobile/zombie thing..Are your sites that are experiencing this table based? While some consider the speed improvement on table based vs. css based sites laughable it is real and could be a factor as it relates to sending mobile traffic. A light weight css based or table based site may win a few points in mobile page scoring, enough to send mobile searchers to a site.