Leosghost - 10:42 pm on Apr 26, 2012 (gmt 0) [edited by: Leosghost at 10:53 pm (utc) on Apr 26, 2012]
<slightly OT> I wonder if the adwords..accompanying serps.. at a country level are not to a large degree self geo sorting and targeting..done via those who buy them and manage them choosing their markets, whereas the "organics" are much less "Geo focused" sometimes, ( apart from those who GEO target via GWMT ..which has got to be a very tiny proportion of over all webmasters outside of here )..I have been running very specific searched recently looking for very specific info from a "niche" I'm opening a business in..the organics are at best reasonable, usually crap though ..the ads are spot on..as long as I'm searching in English "worldwide" via Google.com forced to USA..
But as soon as I search the same specific niche in French , on Google.fr..the organics are much better and more accurate..but the adwords are a 50/50 split, between accurate ..placed by the online retailers..and really truly crap shopping engine catch all .."the subject" of the search "keyword or phrase" is nowhere to be seen on the landing page..frequently I get "you searched for..but we don't have it ..try looking at our ( comparison engine ) resources for alternatives"..and obviously the shopping engine is just an aff bidding and winning on all terms..NO QS "landing page" score seems to apply on the French adwords market..I don't see all countries getting the same quality of organic serps or adwords results</Slightly OT>
Might be that Google can deal with dupes and clones in organics but don't want to spend a huge amount on it in some markets, ( how big is Matt Cutt's team ? and how many countries do they deal with ? ) ..and they may not be as selective, or severe in others, or even "laissez faire"..
Panda rolled out to all areas ..but are the criteria the same in all areas and languages ? ..and when an "algo" update rolls, do all areas and languages get treated with the same criteria..IME..they don't..
But here we really only hear about the English speaking areas and markets..and even within them I don't see the exact same criteria in use either in panda or algo updates..and certainly all verticals and niches don't get treated the same, even in the same language area or market..even "local" within the same country does not get criteria/ variables and thus does not get the same "treatment" in every "place"..
I don't think for one moment, that Google shed any tears that this makes adwords the only "relatively" stable way of reaching page one..Qs scores not withstanding..
But I don't think that they need to "rig the game"..just the act of sorting serps via updates or Panda etc,( like sorting the wheat from the chaff the old fashioned way of tossing it in the air and letting the chaff fall away ) makes those who want stability think of adwords..meanwhile the number of pages is growing as fast if not faster than they can sort the wheat from the chaff..partly because they index so rapaciously..
Bing indexes far more sparingly ..an oft heard complaint about Bing is how few pages of some sites are actually in their index..so their sorting is easier..
So yes it may well be that Google are not averse to using the older tactic of "clearing out" sometimes..
Whichever it is..they definitely do not see the need for anything that they might view as a thin aff..so if one is..one's days are numbered ever smaller, with every run of Panda and every run of an algo ..whatever they name it at the time, in many markets and areas it's targets are reducing the affs..Google does not see them as anything other than competition for revenue..
Which if one thinks about it ..makes perfect sense..
Google itself is all the thin aff, many businesses, who are prepared to give money via ads or Commission in exchange for traffic, would need..
edited for typos..those I noticed :)
[edited by: Leosghost at 10:53 pm (utc) on Apr 26, 2012]