tedster - 1:42 am on Mar 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

just love to stir you Google fans up

Well, MrTroll, it's not exactly a "buy in" to some major bill of goods that goes on with me. I'd never claim that Googlers don't sometimes spin things, or have public relations motives in mind - far from it!

But there's a big difference between that kind of thing and a flat out lie - which is what you (and others) are accusing Ryan Moultano of. He's been a regular contributor at Hacker News for years and I see no reason to see this as anything other than a passionate and humanly hurt expression of someone who feels wrongly accused.

This post of his is not some official announcement or some Youtube help video from Maile Ohye. Those vehicles could be more suspect of being heavily spun. But in this case, what Ryan is saying also lines up with what I actually see. For heaven's sake, when Panda was first released it clearly had a negative impact on Google's Adsense income and the Adsense team even felt blindsided by the whole affair!

If webmasters choose to write this kind of communication off as a mere lie, they are hurting themselves and looking for an easy way to let themselves off the hook. If it's all some vast conspiracy on Google's end, then there's no way for the little guy to succeed. IMO, that attitude is self defeating BS.

[edited by: tedster at 1:47 am (utc) on Mar 24, 2012]