dunivan - 2:23 pm on Oct 31, 2011 (gmt 0)

I don't think it was vince, if it were vince we wouldn't have seen the false positive panda hits we saw, as some of those sites benefitted from the vince update - Amazon for example took an 8% hit in the initial panda. Maybe vince was pre-panda, but its definitely its own beast

I think of vince as a whitelist, and panda as a plague.