walkman - 6:20 am on Oct 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

sites offering SEO have been tanked. So what exactly are they teaching if they can't keep their house in order?

Google controls the flow so any site can tank if Google targets their niche. Those beating their chests are fools.

Is SEO dead? Depends on what niche you are in, in some you may need to learn about PPC in addition to regular SEO.

_{Let's not assume that things will stay this way for ever or that Google will always control 70% or act in Panda fashion all the time. The last Panda, for example, was reversed as far as I can tell and most likely because of complaints from famous sites. Other sites are much more numerous but make less noise and it's easier to dismiss them as 'low quality.' For how long, it remains to be seen. One NYT article and Panda is gone ;). There's no hard data that shows do a 'Panda or have a search index full of spammy sites.' Bing already discriminates by not indexing the 'bad' pages at all and then by using long click to reward /demote individual pages. So they are many ways.}