wheel - 2:27 pm on Sep 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

Yeah I'm crazy. You think Google cares about your penalty? You're delusional if you think that. The fact is, if you ride the edge, you should be prepared to get penalized permanently - because Google has absolutely no motivation to let you back into the serps after you've proven that you're screwing with them. It's not about what's right about your site, it's about whether google could care at all if your site is even in the serps - their's a million other sites waiting to take your place that haven't been shown that they disregard Google's guidelines.

And there are sites that have effectively been permanently penalized. I've spoken to people who had their sites disappear and their businesses collapse without any hope of returning. It happens, and it's only right.