sorry it was a little tongue in cheek. The most common complaint i hear since panda is about being outranked by scrapers. I know it wasnt meant to be anything to do with scrapers and that the scraper update was before it but for me and everyone i speak to its the one big common factor, outranked by scrapers since panda went live. It also said that scraped content doesnt hurt you unless you have been penalised for other reasons. For me i notice that the worst hit pages come back when the scraped pages are removed. This is since panda not any other update. Panda is said to be a quality update not a penalty yet it works the same as a penalty on scraped pages. Google keeps giving 'would you trust this website with your credit card', as one of the criteria for the seed sites fed to panda. Therefore i simply ask, the pages that rank against you for your own content, or the website as a whole since its your content anyway, would they be a trustworthy site on a quick glance by an intermediate or lower web user thus satisfying the 'curb appeal' nature of panda?