johnhh - 8:35 pm on Jul 1, 2011 (gmt 0)
In our case we actually compete with the same sites for most phrases.
So for very competitive pages, in some sections we "win" in others we "lose". There is some sort of "is the site(s) above/below better ?" going on. The definition of better, IMHO , still leaves a lot to be desired.
I have a horrible feeling that the next roll-out will be announced as a Panda "improvement" but may well be, in fact, a reversal to a previous pre-panda algo, or at least part of it.