MrFewkes - 6:48 pm on Jul 16, 2010 (gmt 0)

K.

The competitor sites generally have pink widget 3 times or more in the title - so I "felt" i had to do the same - dont ask me why :)

His top ranking site however has pink widget in the delimited title 4 times - the first being on its own - like this.

Pink Widget | Buy Pink Widget | Pink Widget **word** | Pink Widget **word** | **word** Pink Widget - $xx.xx **word** **word**

So - whilst I totally 100% understand where Tedster is coming from in the stuffing angle - we can see by example and therefore proof that google does not appear to dislike this to the point where it would punish a site for doing it above all other factors. Not with this keyphrase anyway for now.

I suppose my question stands though but needs putting another way now.

Lets assume that a sites index page contains ZERO optimisation for a phrase by means of the following (on-page) :-

In title but....
Not in description
Not in alt
Not in Anchors
Not in H tags
Not in image names
Mentioned in body text say - two times for good measure.

Lets say that this situation was cached and had been for say 6 months.

Then - I come along one day and fill the pages image names, h tags, alt tags, anchors and description etc nicely with the key phrase mentioned only previously in the title and body.

For this example - can we assume that other sites have all 100% exact offsite and onsite factors equal to each other and they are equal to mine aswell.

So - all things equal - im saying that my pages are not moving when I add my words in (I think).

Have other people noticed this aswell?

Cheers