aspdesigner - 6:30 pm on Jun 9, 2010 (gmt 0)
"I doubt that any of these behaviors was what Google desired"
@Robert: That's also what all of us thought at first back in 2003. But as the months progressed, and the SERPs remained unchanged, it eventually became clear to us that the SERPs looked that way, because Google WANTED them that way!
As one member stated, if Google did not like the way the SERPs looked, they could have simply rolled-back Florida at the time.
Something that we reluctantly, eventually came to realize - the Florida algo is more PROFITABLE for Google!
In present day, Google's video that came-out in response to the outcry over THESE SAME EXACT PROBLEMS with the Mayday SERPs, AGAIN makes it clear - GOOGLE LIKE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE!
" I just did a webmaster/google related 3 word search that is a VERY common problem. I was absolutely blown away to see the results..."
@drall: The problems you describe are EXACTLY THE SAME as what we saw in 2003.
And you are correct, this is NOT a "longtail" issue. From what I have seen in the SERPs, I now believe that "longtail" & "quality sites" were just misdirecting FUD, intended to keep us from realizing what was ACTUALLY going on.
As I recall someone commenting about Google & FUD - This is WORSE than releasing no information. With no information, the SEO Community can at least analyze the facts, and draw reasonably logical conclusions from the results.
But you are correct, these severe problems are affecting ALL searches - both long AND short!
"When I ran this search in November of 2009 it returned 10 unique companies in the top 10 spots. We were not one of them, but they were legitimate competitors."
@scottsonline: This having most of the legit companies / competitors vaporised from the Top 10 is the EXACT SAME PROBLEM we saw in 2003!
"It really looks like they are happy with this"
@ohno: I Agree.
"But oh WAIT - there was also something else I heard: google is opening a 'mayday crisis center' to help get info to businesses who rely on search and whose revenues were impacted by more than 50% drop in google traffic since...
Uh wait a minute. It's daytime... I'm awake now... I guess I must have dreamed that . "
@mantucket: Yes, they did - it's called...
(deliberately broke the link with a new protocol, so they don't make $$$ off it!)
"Assuming that the time span of 4-6 weeks is correct I have to wait another 3-5 weeks before I might know if this is temporary or a permanent situation."
@vandread: When Florida happened, we waited too. After waiting a very long time, we finally realized nothing was going to happen - so we stood up and took action.
" I went to ad some more Adword campaigns today and I noticed the prices for keywords have really increased.
Looks like they accomplished what they wanted.
Increased adwords prices, more people clicking the adwords.
That will make for a great quarterly return on their profit statements and keep investors happy which is what Google is all about."
We have a Winner!
Back in 2003-2004, it took months for many of us here to finally come to the same conclusion.
Even one of the few members who repeatedly SUPPORTED Google during the Florida discussions (so much so, that someone accused him of being a Google employee), stated that increased commercial search relevancy would be unprofitable for Google, as it would decrease AdWords clicks, and that...
"the optimal profit level for Google may be that commercial SERPs be just marginally relevant....
Google is in business. The business of selling Adwords."
"thatīs corresponding with the invitation from ggole today to join their adwords program."
@Martin Ice Web: Google is actually taking advantage of the bad SERPs by sending-out AdWords invites right now?
" To get some observations in sync, one thing jumps out at me when I compare some observations on this thread and on the Is History Repeating Itself at Google? thread [webmasterworld.com] [webmasterworld.com]..."
@Robert: After reviewing a MASSIVE # of posts regarding the details of what had happened back in 2003, I came to a startling discovery, which I will be posting in that thread shortly.
Here's a hint...
Perhaps "Mayday" is not the best name?