eiilers - 4:41 pm on Aug 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

I don't think these are penalties at all. I am seeing -30 on some sites that are using really good, natural linking strategies. There is really ZERO reason why I would get penalties. And on some of my others sites (which I haven't touched SEO on in a year) they have actually increased in rank. These sites don't have the best links (most reciprocal). So my whitehat sites are declining and my sites with reciprocal links are rising.