Marcia - 10:03 pm on Jul 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Maybe it's not the timing of penalties and updates, but there might be some penalties that do have something to do with displayed TBPR, so this one will be interesting to watch. And also interesting will be to see what's discussed by people who experience and see penalties lifted.

My guess (based on translating Mattspeak) is that it's no accident that the two were mentioned together when usually there's no advance notice of TB updates.

Someone's got something up their sleeve if there was a point made of announcing this in advance.