Brett_Tabke - 1:02 pm on Aug 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

> re-included domain never regained its former positions

I still think, the best thing you can do with a penalized domain is 301 it to a new domain and abandon it for about a year. G completely drops the ban and the "dampening" factors after the ban is gone. You finally get to keep the pr via the new domain. If you don't, I have to agree with Glen that the penalty lives forever.