Adam, We posted at the same time so I didn't see your message when I wrote the last one.
Yes, and I want that to be true. I think that's why the -950 thing has got to me. I've only lost a few pages so unlike some others it hasn't hurt much financially. It's the principal of the thing, the seemingly lack of concern that there is collateral damage. Good information, far beyond what I have on the web, is being lost to searchers. Content isn't king any more.
I know it's hard to deal with spammy sites. I don't expect perfection. I just expected some concern about the problem.
The originator of the thread has helped it sink in for me that I need to get out from under the "mindshare spell" not because Google is evil or anything. But goals have changed. Google needs to concentrate on their shareholders and I need to concentrate on my visitors.