Freedom - 10:37 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

This thread seems to boil down to a couple of points.

1.) Google would have even more spam now then they did before with these updates.

2.) That the fault of all the spam present we see now is because of Google Adsense

#1 is just speculation, that is possible, but not easily proven.

In #2, it needs to be pointed out the Adsense department and Tech department at Google are two different hands on the same switches. Each team has their own agenda.

Personally, I think there are too many off page factors invovled and the switch from "Exact Phrase" words to "Any" words coming from "authority sites, is what is really killing their search results these days.