stinkfoot - 3:08 am on Nov 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

>this is one of the threads with the most appalling quality of personal optinions stated as fact that I have seen here ever.

Erm .. that IS a personal opinion mate and it has a typo in it!

>a. site wide links will NOT cause a penalisation. They may be ignored, thats different. Otherwise everybody would be giving there competitors site wide links on junk sites.

I notice you say not cause and then say maybe ignored .. thats not very concise. There are many sites in the past that have been very high ranking for very competitive keywords and site-wide links to them. They are ALL gone now from the top 10 in my industry. They are under penalty place 2 to place 900+ is NOT just ignoring links.

>b. Again having links pages does not cause a PENALIZATION. These pages may well be ignored. Or have there link power reduced.

So who said it did? A bad links page with rubbish outgoing may get you struck off. It is a known fact. If you require proof of this just sticky mail me .. I will give you some pages to link to and see what happens to your ranking.

>c. unnatural growth. More than one page of content causes google to kick you?. I have content sites and I can verify that this is simple not true.

This is a slight exaduration, but not much of one. Adding content has been difficult for about 1 year or so now. The stagnant nature of high ranking sites in very competitive industries is appalling. Why ... because production of new information does not get ranked. It gets pushed away to the back and never seen for 2 years. If you produce to much new info you can get kicked from a top 10 position quite quickly.

You may well have content based sites that produce 20 pages a day and are very highly placed in hypercompetitive industries, but you are not the norm.

Where personal opinion is concerned .. I have a policy in life that is simple ... if I know something of a subject that is broached I will say something about it to "share" my experiences. If I don't know anything about what is being talked about I shut up.

The facts that i stated about what CAN get you kicked from google are so because they have been in my experience true. These points have been brought up many times in this forum and are well documented by many others as well as myself.