robotsdobetter - 2:55 am on Aug 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Without quality serps, there will be no Adwords-Adsense program.

That's not true. Most internet surfers either don't know about other search engines or are to lazy to type the URL of an other search engine in. The top two search engines have nothing, but junk in the search results.

Google uses dirty tricks, as for example the Sand Box effect, that really is just the way to make new webmasters to pay for be listed for a long time.

Can you show any proof that this is true? No, you can't. Because it's not true. Often older web sites offers more then the new web sites coming out. How often do you see new web sites that are great? It's very rare. So, it's no wonder why Google uses it. It's aimed at spammers more then anything.

Sand Box moves from SERPS any new relevant website, sometimes for 12 or 18 months (depends on words) and keeps SERPS just with obsolete websites with not updated content.

Most web sites come out of it within 7 to 9 months from what I have seen. I have never seen any proof that a web site has stayed in the sandbox for 18 months. Can you show proof on that?