carlosnx - 12:57 am on Aug 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Are you suggesting that they won't make 10 more spammy Web sites even if the original one isn't banned? :-)"

Of course they will NOT do. Spammers are not hard workers. Basic principle of a spammer is to do the minimum effort. If one spamming structure is working well, probably they have another in reserve, but will not multiply. If one is banned, the one banned will cloned 10 times for guarantee that next time, system will be more difficult to ban.

and

"Without quality serps, there will be no Adwords-Adsense program"

That is absolutely false. If serps are good and relevant, adsense will not work at all.
Google has now, because a lot of webmasters, a leader position as SE, an plays with the serps for optimize the Adsense results. SERPS are now so low quality that many users starts to use the search listings just for visit the Adsense ads, and never click on a SERP result.
In fact, this tendence makes that to be at 1st pages on MSN and Yahoo, gives more or less same visitors to your website that to be in Google (depends on words) because Google users, are cliking more and more on adwords results.
Google uses dirty tricks, as for example the Sand Box effect, that really is just the way to make new webmasters to pay for be listed for a long time. Sand Box moves from SERPS any new relevant website, sometimes for 12 or 18 months (depends on words) and keeps SERPS just with obsolete websites with not updated content.
Finally you ad the spammers at SERPS and with all these reasons you find why users ignore the SERPS and click more at Adwords listings.
Google has 50 to 60% of SE market, but delivers to websites listed on them more or less same traffic that Yahoo or MSN with only 15 to 20%
You think this is not a plan created by Google's nerds?