1 thing that keeps coming back to me is that the older of my 3 main sites seems to be the worst hit. It does not even rank for it's domain name search. Previous to June 27th or "brown day" as I call it this site has been immune to everything. Many of the problem sites seem to be well established older sites so maybe this is some type of dead wood enema google is undertaking. Age of domain may just not carry the same clout as it did prior to June 27th.