MikeNoLastName - 8:07 am on Jun 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Not sure what you mean DC?
3 or 4 pages? whose?

I also forgot to mention, on the pages which are still showing up in the #1 positions, they do NOT show up for a search on their full titles, leading me to think there may still be some penalty there, just not as popular a term, or they were so high above their surrounding SERPS that they still managed to rank.