whoisgregg - 10:22 pm on Apr 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

those logs are destroyed after 30 days or so

the difference between terabytes of raw logs that get rotated every x days

If data is important enough to collect in the first place, then why would raw logs get destroyed after 30 days? Why log anything if you aren't keeping it and using it?

There's real security and there's security blankets. You use the fact that other companies haven't written programs to allow users to access the information collected about them as evidence that those companies either aren't keeping it more than 30 days or aren't using it at all.

Your argument can be effectively re-written as such:
Other companies keep me in the dark about what they track, so they must not really be tracking anything. I assume they must delete what they do track, since I've never been allowed to see any of it.

I don't mean to roast you personally, but your ideas about this topic are just wishful thinking and the last thing any serious and professional privacy discussion needs is wishful thinking.