Boaz - 12:57 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

>> now why does mfishy need you to defend his qualifications?

He doesn't, it just looked like the discussion was going to get off the tracks and I wanted to put it back on track.

>> I have about 10 sites waiting to rank.

Now that's where we probably differ. If by "waiting to rank" you mean waiting to get PR, I have some sites I consider to still be in the sandbox, yet they already have (visible) PR. And I have a few other sites which I consider to be in the sandbox, with no visible PR yet (created after June 23, the last visible PR update), yet they already show backlinks. I also know from threads here that many other webmasters are in a similar situation, and not because they are bad SEOs (since their old sites, optimized similarly to their new ones and with similar links, do very well..).