mfishy - 11:55 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

<<if it has pr, it is not in the sandbox.>>

You are simply wrong.

Actually, your entire theory is based on a premise of a supplemental index that you have 0 proof exists. Also, if you understood how people are getting around the sandbox, you would understand the phenomena a lot more.

<<if it has pr, it is not in the sandbox. the problems you have not ranking in the serps are due to other reasons - penalties, filters, you are out-seoed, etc. >>

No. Folks who runa lot of sites ahve the advantage of knowing the exact formula each one has used. New sites with PR are not tranking where older site with very similar techniques are. Out of curioity, renee, do you have any sites that rank on competetive terms? You seem a bit out of the loop with your research here?!

[edited by: mfishy at 12:01 am (utc) on Oct. 5, 2004]