Marcia - 12:17 pm on Oct 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>The sandbox/google lag/whatever is a ranking, not an indexing issue. It is absolutely critical to understand that.

>>Yes, to say anything else would be to discuss a different phenomena

They are absolutely, positively in the index, just like any other pages. And they're cached just like any others.

This is G o o g l e's text-only cache of [example.com...] as retrieved on Sep 9, 2004 12:29:04 GMT. G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web. The page may have changed since that time. Click here for the current page without highlighting. Click here for the full cached page with images included.

The pages get updated (verified by changing "last updated" on the pages), and in fact as new pages are added to the sites they're indexed as well. One has had a fresh date for the homepage. One is even showing up in the backlinks for another site. They just won't rank for anything.