compsingh - 11:17 am on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0) -codejammer If you are not on the first page of SERPs you are in the middle of nowhere, so just wait for a rescue Chopper.
Aloha, Guys let me be frank with you. We have a bunch of sites through which we run academic experiments and we have noted some very interesting results with google. One observation is that they haven't updated the page rank shown on their toolbar since july. In august they dropped one of our site (say X ) and the traffic went down by a factor of ten. One of our sites (say Y) actually got a boost due to this update because all the SEO's got flushed out. That site(Y) was hit last week of sept and we saw the investigative googlebot (the one with mozilla user agent) trying to find similarities between X and Y. we had some similarity and so cudn't help being hacked by google and being detected as a part of the "ring". Immediately after that we removed the similarities and links from Y to X. Y used to rank most of the times in the first page of search results but now Google seems to have put a hold on us and although we target precise phrases they never let us up on the first page. We still have a pilot site (say Z) which is going good on the rankings. But Z doesn't have good content and is just a placeholder with some smart scripts doing the job. As for all the people who are promoting products, I must say that google is promoting real product sites and they have a Bias. For those of you who were thinking of making money during chirstmas, its a far fetched dream because a consistent trend comes up confirming the biased rankings. Search for "snow boots" or "cordless tools" in google and you'll know what I mean. Amazon is consistently ranked the top in their rankings if it has a page for that phrase, although the snow boots page isn't even relevant and shows up despite more than 2 million matches. Another interesting statistic is google has 4,285,199,774 pages in total with 2,840,000 pages from amazon. That's 1 in every 1500 pages on the web is from amazon. (Give me a break given there are millions of sites out there). There is a definite nexus between google and amazon. So after all the latest so called algo changes of google its the amazon and not your product sites that are going to be up there. But we are confident some Anti algorithms will succeed to break this incestual relation.
If you are not on the first page of SERPs you are in the middle of nowhere, so just wait for a rescue Chopper.