rfgdxm1 - 1:36 am on Sep 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

>Any experiments to prove any of that is immaterial from the point of view of this thread's original post which does not beg any explanations of how toolbar/PR works if it does work and/or it's relevance in search results.

The problem was that the phrasing of the OP was ambiguous. To me, PR means "that value that the Google algo uses to rank pages" and NOT "how many green pixels are there on my toolbar?" I was quite aware of the existence of something called PageRank long before there was such a thing as the Google Toolbar, and that quite obviously microsoft.com had more of this PageRank thingy than the homepages of teenagers. Given that it seems apparent that algo PR and toolbar PR now update at different times, may I suggest that when people post about PR that they make it clear which of the 2 they refer to? For those who would argue that the only PR anyone can know about is what the toolbar shows, this just isn't so. If I have a page with a toolbar PR of 2, and I get a new inbound link to that page from a toolbar PR8 page with few outbound links, likely it will be all kinds of obvious from the SERPs for that page of mine when the algo PR is updated.