Well RF - that as you mentioned in these days is almost impossible to do, but thanks for the laugh. I thought you might have a magic potion in mind - heck a true virgin would be magic these days. Guess all I can do is sit and wait it out - there surely is no reason I can find for the GBot behavior, but then again if I knew the answer to that one I wouldn't have posted to start with. I wonder how many of us go to our SHRINKS due to Google woes. Thanks again. You've always been most helpful.