In that thread, he compiled a list of all of GoogleGuy’s recent comments concerning update Dominic. The excerpts were a big help for many of our members. However, the following discussion quickly ended up much like the various threads that albert originally had to dig through in order to compile his list.
Trying to wade through all the various update threads has clearly caused some frustration [webmasterworld.com] for many of our members. So in order to try and alleviate some of that frustration, I thought we might try a new version of albert’s original post. This version includes all of albert’s original excerpts. It will also be updated periodically. However, we are going to keep this thread “read only.”
Anyone interested in following GoogleGuy’s contributions to the current update discussions can bookmark or flag this thread. If/when we post updates, this thread will appear on the active list.
If you have any questions or comments relating to anything in this thread, I would greatly appreciate it if you post them in one of our current update threads.
SJ started testing a new index with a sightly different build of backlinks. [webmasterworld.com...] GoogleGuy msg #44 May 5
rfgdxm1, every index has to pass a really stringent battery of tests before it becomes visible. SEOs might notice a slightly different build of backlinks, but things like that could be balanced by factors that improve search quality more in other areas. The other thing to bear in mind is that it's easy to re-sync something like backlinks or spam snapshots once you're convinced that an algorithm or method is an improvement.
SJ results will show up at other data centers soon [webmasterworld.com...] GoogleGuy msg #107 May 5
Critter, it wouldn't surprise me to see SJ results start to show up at other data centers soon.
Test of new method with a known base of backlinks, bringing in more up-to-date backlink and spam info later on [webmasterworld.com...] GoogleGuy msg #134 May 5
Traveler, good question. From the first few posts of that 500+ thread, several people mentioned that they have some very new results in SJ. It's natural that we would test new methods by using a known base of backlinks, but that shouldn't be discouraging to people--backlinks are the sort of data that Google could bring back in over a relatively short time frame. And the same thing goes for known snapshots of spam--that can be brought in fairly quickly as well. SEOs notice whether a backlink comes from two months ago or one month ago, but typical users would care more about fresher pages.
Critter, if it's the site listed in your profile, it looks like you only have 5-6 domains that link to your site. A few of those are forum links that might not have made it into the base of backlinks. Getting links from places like the Open Directory Project would help, for example.
[i]Don't be alarmed if the number of reported backlinks goes down. That's actually to be expected in the update. Most of it affects all sites uniformly, so it comes out in the wash as being equal. The better way to measure it is how your rankings/traffic change.
SJ results will show up at other data centers GoogleGuy msg #43 May 6
What rfgdxm1 said. I think you'll see SJ results appear at more data centers over time.
I think we added a few more backlinks in yesterday. I'm assuming people have read HitProf's thread on backlinks too? rfgdxm1, sorry to hear that you don't like the SJ index. I also checked your ingredient theory in your spam report. People had suggested that a long time ago at the GooglePlex, but that's not the primary addition for SJ.
Twas a minor update in backlinks, MyWifeSays. I still expect SJ results to be seen at more data centers first.
sj/fi index will shift to other data centers. After more backlinks and other data [webmasterworld.com...] GoogleGuy msg #52 May 14
webdev, I think almost all of these questions have been answered several hundred threads ago. As late as this morning, I posted saying that I expected sj/fi index data to make its way to other data centers and to various sites. Once that data appears more broadly, we'll gradually be pulling in more backlinks and applying other data.
steve128, the sj/fi data centers have been tested and approved. What I said several hundred posts ago was that you can expect an index like that to show up at more (and possibly all) data centers in the future.
I wouldn't draw huge distinctions between sj and fi. When I say "I expect the sj index to spread to other data centers," that could be sj or fi.
SJ and FI similar, but emphasizing different things like topicality - same with different data centers [webmasterworld.com...] Google Guy in this thread msg #16 May 14
There's a lot of backlinks on the web. :) It will take some time to bring them all in. To clarify a couple things: - it helps to think of sj and fi as similar. It's better conceptually to think of them as cut from the same cloth. - chiyo, every data center has different machine characteristics. So similar/identical indices might look slightly different at different data centers. This goes back to the point above. Don't think of it as if we build a different index with a different theme for different customers. Our partners get the same scoring/data that we use. That said, the global index that we build can emphasize different things more, such as topicality or more diverse file types. So sj/fi are different in several ways. I would expect that difference to spread to other data centers. Then things will resume moving forward.
Hope that helps, GoogleGuy
Different nature of SJ and FI is expected to spread to more data centers [webmasterworld.com...] Google Guy in this thread msg #28 May 14
trillianjedi, I'm saying that sj and fi are of a different nature than previous indices, and that I expect that different nature to spread to more data centers (ex, anyone? :) I've been using "sj" to denote this different nature, but I appreciate the chance to clarify.
There are lots of different ways to measure the size/usefulness of an index. Nice job to Allergic for noticing something that most people usually don't. :)
Timeframe to bring in backlinks - and: should we watch sj/fi [webmasterworld.com...] GoogleGuy msg 43 May 14
x_m, you could always do that yourself by just not querying sj/fi. :) trillianjedi, just to clarify on the other point, I mentioned that backlinks could be brought in on a relatively short timeframe, but remember that we are talking about terabytes of data here--the web is a big chunk of data. I think I also replied to someone else at one point that bringing in those backlinks wasn't the sort of thing that could happen in a day or two. Hope that sheds more light on things