liquidstar - 6:07 am on Apr 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

there would be literally 10-20 ways around any filter they come up with. what about z-indexing for example.

All the text I want google to see absolute positioned

An image, table, anything solid, over the top using z-imaging and absolute positioning

Would never be able to be detected. Even a hand check would be hard pressed to see the problem.

Much ado about nothing if you ask me. Google would never do anything for a few hundred (thousand) people who complain that would create several thousand (million) complaints that perfectly innocent sites were banned.

Spam in one form or another is here to stay. You just have to beat it. And remember the common SEO saying that it's spam if your competitor is ahead of you; it's great SEO if you're ahead of your competitor.

This is what I tell the guys who work for me. Stop crying start optimizing. Good sites rise to the top... eventually.