JayC - 6:23 am on May 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

If "submission" is defined as complete management and some sort of seo consulting thrown in as some firms describe it, then "submission" can be worth your time. It all depends upon what the extra services are.

Exactly. Blind submission of an unoptimized page or site doesn't "work," and hasn't been worth any worry in the search engine environment as it's existed for the past couple of years. If you're not going to bother to create a site that deserves decent ranking -- or if you're not willing to pay for good PPC positioning -- you may as well not worry about whether to, or how to, submit it.