Celerityfm, the one place where it may be good to keep submitting is AV. Recent experience suggests that despite very thorough spidering, ONLY submitted pages end up in the index. On the other hand, there seems to be a problem with these pages being buried. Also, some report no new additions in weeks. Personally, I'm still doing some ransom note submissions, but it's way down on the priority list because of the minimal impact even if the pages get in.