Agreed, littleman.. There are many paper mcse's out there that are *clueless*. Having invested in in formal (expensive) MS based education, I find it really sad. If I were to do it again, I would certainly go open source all the way. As far as OS wars go in the webserver market, a close friend with a very large Canadian ISP just about fell off his chair when I sent him the link. They run only 1 NT server and aside from daily reboots, it typically requires 5-6 hrs of maintenance a week. *nix? Most frontline boxes have uptime of 200 days +. No study, commercial or salesperson will convince me. NT has its place in the market - webserver environment is not it.