T_Miller - 8:19 pm on Apr 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

Besides, how hard is it to get a page to cleanly pass 4.01 transitional?

LOL. On the forum for my cart software, it's very common for 'webmasters' (of ecommerce sites at that!) to have NO clue about page validation, doc types, browser quirks mode rendering, etc. They design in IE on a huge geek-toy monitor and wonder why their sites looks like crap on other systems, browsers, etc. And their conversion rate sucks.

After numerous post trying to help people clean up their code and validate, we get replies like this that make you shake you head (my emphasis added):

Update: I removed the DOC type and charset lines, and the site is back to normal.