Paul_Woodley - 7:18 pm on Jan 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

Tedster..
I knew sooner or later someone would mention SE's and Frames. Here's my take. I have been studying and adapting to the SE's for a long time.

Part A. You are correct about the SE's not liking the FRAME pages BUT that is NOT always so.

(I'll just stick to Part A... LOL)

People who do NOT get listed well or at all with FRAME sites (considering all else is equal..like everyone using webposition gold and has equal skillset) usually don't get listed becuase the disobey the LAW's of POPULARITY! They are:
1. Always have a <no frames> tag in your frame page
2. Make that FRAME page an index.htm or index.html page
3. Have at least your description in your Header frame
4. Have good link relevancy and be cross linked with other sites

ANd there are a lot more. I find just to continue this point (and many will agree) that smaller description, title and h1 usage,content, and how many are linked to you (external sites) are really the main keys!

What I do is use doorway pages OF sub-domains. Another thing is that people don't realize that the Registrar like Network Solutions is using their frame or cloak to
hide your domain name. ANd so people with frames must make sure to use the DNS settings of the registrar to achieve this.

In regards to your increase click and unique visitor stats...

AWESOME!

But the real key here is stickyness. I think it is great that you got all those clicks but the real question are they bookmarking your site and returning?

Here's a tip! If you use FRAMES or FLAT dont make the page to big in KB and don't have too mush JS becuase if spiders time out too if your content is too big! And that I think is the main reason why most FRAMED istes dont do well becuase they are linking 2--4 sometimes more .htm pages and the spiders just go back home to eat more spidy food! (-:

-PW