Leosghost - 6:06 pm on Sep 15, 2012 (gmt 0)
As Jim has said, we have been speaking in PM about this ( I got distracted and forgot to send him a link until today ..mea culpa ) and he is looking into it..he thinks it may yet prove to have been done by "bots"..( in which case someone may have merely noticed the deletions and claimed that they were responsible ) if that were the case, it is worrying that bots can remove active sites that are in there..
I'll hear from him in PM about the specific instance..
But, in general, re the point of editor less categories ( and applying to edit those categories ) and uncontactable or non operational admins in dmoz ..
I've just checked the category again..still no editor and the overall category , ( which is huge, it is one of the 16 major categories on the front page of DMOZ ) still has the same problem as I saw before ..
admin #1) his contact website says the same as it did a year ( or possibly even longer ago ) ago..that he is not active in DMOZ due to personal reasons..
admin #2 ) his contact website cannot be found on the web..it doesn't even 404 anymore..
admin #3 ) his contact website is now a spam site parked at sedo, and running a parked page search engine..
admin #4) no website listed ..only a page which says
and then a link to a contact form , which one has just been told, will rarely be answered anyway ;)
Please note that I rarely answer emails sent to me by submitters - please use the forums at Resource-Zone where editors will be more than happy to answer general questions regarding DMOZ.
admin #5) no profile , no website, only an email link..and after much digging around I discovered that they and admin #4 were part of a team working on "Volunteer Development", a team whose last decision was taken in 2005, and it was to abandon the project!,
admin #4 was also last active in a behind the scenes newsletter entitled "The Next Generation" that was closed in 2008, so admins #4 and #5 may well not have been active for 5 years ..
my attempts to find out more, hit the editors "login page"..
Visitors such as myself to the ODP, and who would be interested in becoming an editor ( of an abandoned category, Jim has told me that the very specific category in question has no record of having had an editor since 2007, hence he is looking further into it ) are directed via the "help" link at the top right of every page to this page.
Seems very straight forward..
Except..the instruction to
won't work, because the "become an editor" link doesn't exist that I can find, ( at the top , nor anywhere on the page ) in any category, even the ones with no current editor..
Go to the category that interests you, then click on the "become an editor" link at the top.
Has DMOZ decided that it wants no new editors?
Or has no one in DMOZ discussed, taking the responsibility to make sure that the current editors and admins are actually active? and if not to remove them? and to make the "become an editor " links actually something which exists where the "help" pages claim that they do..
Reminds me somewhat of the military, certain "promotions" could only happen by filling "dead mens shoes"..and some things and oversight, that should have been done didn't happen because, "not my job sarge, no one said"..and "wasn't on "orders" so, no-one checked"...even volunteers need some system to make sure that some are not merely "taking up space" or "phantoms occupying desks" and "in the way"..
Asking volunteers to volunteer, by clicking non existent links, is Kafkaesque...;)
I should add that as I said to Jim via PM and <as Ive said here in the past, I tend to agree with the views expressed by "flicker" in previous threads on the subject..and I really cannot see how anyone can claim to "need" to be in DMOZ..
Unless it is because prospective buyer considers their site to be worth more if it is in there..or a client has set inclusion as an indicator of "performance" form an SEO..in which case both the SEO and client have totally misunderstood why it exists..
We may all be to one degree or another "marketroids" in these sort of fora..but not everything exists only to serve our quest for rankings in search engines, nor should it..( and as I said above inclusion or not, doesn't really affect traffic,or Google rankings, especially not these days, and IME removal, does not do so either ) it just is disconcerting to have been in , and now be out, without reason..( and the reason given by someone, in the absence of being able to ask, made sense ) ..but I'll leave it to Jim to clear it up for me..