Miamacs - 12:58 pm on Nov 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

jomaxx, sorry I didn't mean to blame anyone and no, all I know is what I've seen/read of the story. What I meant was that in my experience, most of the time ( not always ) it takes a certain amount of negligance from parents ( not during but leading to the incident ) for a teenaged person to be so confuzed, insecure, feeling unloved, ugly and unimportant. This isn't a fact, this is just gut feeling after seeing all too many such cases, including attempted suicide of three ( completely unrelated ) girls I know throughout the last few years, all of around the same age. All of them have had severe problems with lack of attention, love or acceptance... from their mother. Not the usual teenage differences, but their mothers telling them off every other day, some of them taking an utterly wrong approach to 'strenghten' their child - not taking into account that they are dealing with a person, and not just their own ideals. Which is hard to believe - to me too - until you see it in real life. The result you can imagine, young people with no safe place to feel secure, no 'ultimate ally' to run to. One of them turned to God, one of them got interested in psychology... a third is now a young madwoman... the rest of such but less severe stories around me and within my family too add to the gut feeling that something wasn't entirely right at home in this case either, though I might be wrong. So my message to those who don't, is love your children, please. ( I'm sure everyone who reads this knows, and feels this way already ). The other side of the story, the actual abuse by adult neighbors (!), is something I'd have filed a criminal suit for, and even if the investigations end up with the conclusion of no people being directly responsible, or a suspended sentence ( which I'd call for ), that would send out the proper message that if you mess with people, no matter whom, you are doing something wrong.

If the shootings by mistreated, bullied, mentally unstable boys this year didn't send the proper message already. But these things can't be stressed enough... you shouldn't treat people badly, and that's that. Not your neighbor, nor your classmate, not even your 'enemies'.

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Can't remember seeing the story of the finnish boy here, ( perhaps I missed it ) who actually laid out the plans of killing others before killing himself, and then did exactly so, last week I think - he posted straightforward clues on YouTube, from where the operators have deleted these videos afterwards. Not sure if he did so to leave a trace for others, or to himself, so that someone might be able to stop him. Not sure if YouTube contacted the local police before the incident, or whether they knew whom to contact at all, but... regardless of these steps taken or not taken, the problems leading there were that some people treated a not-so-healthy person badly, who then snapped.

People just shouldn't do such things.
And that stress then wouldn't burst out in such tragedies.

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