JAB_Creations - 12:54 pm on Jul 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

It's pretty convenient, but you don't get to decide who is what.

Straw-man arguments from both Koan and Axe. First let's define the straw man false argument...

To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

- Wiki

So in Layman's terms straw man is where person A tries to suggest person B supports something they do not and then argues against person B in order to divert attention away from what person B is talking about, usually to also divert attention from what person A is covering up.

Really, this is the most common and easy to see through tactic in existence.

You want to bring up Norway? Okay: Norway was attacked for removing it's financial assets from Israel and declaring support for the Palestinians whose children sleep in bullet riddled houses. The controlled media have been outright racist in detailing the "single" attacker as being a white blue eyed blond haired far right extremist. The straw man diverts from what? The shooter had no significant training with fire arms, with his limited ammo he was able to shoot so accurately that he killed that many people? No, reports have come in that there were multiple shooters, do I trust those reports or the racist media? Hm, I'm going to go with those reports since I also find it impossible that the same guy also apparently blew up half of downtown entirely on his own.

Koan's straw man tactic negated, I will address Sgt's post...

Sgt's "retort" is another stereotypical tactic: straw man mockery. Funny, he forgot to mention the Patriot Act which allows the government anti-constitutional access to things for which they should require a warrant for. The "conservatives" that voted to uphold it can say they are one thing though the ones who voted to keep it are clearly neo-cons. A person is what they do, not necessarily what they say.

Say one thing, do another...straw man arguments, etc. Agendas stand out like the sun at midnight.

- John