walkman - 10:39 pm on Jan 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

the only safe one is the server still in the box :) The idea is that when you claim x and y, you look like a TOTAL idiot when you fail. Having one of the many 1000's of independent sites hacked is just a matter of time. Frankly, I am surprised it took so long (unless others did not publicize it)