limbo - 1:58 pm on Jul 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Trillian/Peewhy, I hear you.

My point wasn't really that they spent all that time coming up with the logo - I knew that is was a scribble composed quickly by a mate of Richards (I wish i was on first name terms) - but when it came to adding colour manipulating the type and finshing the design I can see designers took over, and may have considered some of the concepts I mentioned. I have read into very deeply into the elements of the Virgin logo but this helps me to be a more complete designer when I working on the graphic elements of web design. Which personally does not come naturally - Beer and wine, sadly, are the only certain catalyst for my creativity - hence the logo on our latest site - based on the reflection of a beetle on wine glass :)