outland88 - 2:42 am on Feb 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

>The way to find out if you are penalized is easy. Just go to hotbot, and do a search on the Inktomi database.

Not true. For paid inclusion the penalized url will continue to appear in a url search but not with keyword searches.

As for turning to Lycos they announced they were changing directions and their submittal may disappear shortly.

To many of these companies will take your money right up until they cease operations.