onedumbear - 9:05 am on Nov 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

markis00
>Ink is very into keyword density and thus my Ink optimization has basically died.
>I think I'll start doing some experiments, trying to get my pages ranked high on Ink

There are sites that hold positions in the top 3 listings in google and ink. I know of one in a competitive 2 word phrase that is no 1 in g & ink, before & after the g update began. Im sure there are sites like this in the search terms you watch, this may be a good place to start your "experiments".