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7Search - Good or Bad?
What type of recent experiences have you had?
tedster

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 6:24 am on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

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tootalldave [webmasterworld.com]
Junior Member joined:Oct 23, 2003 posts:64

We recently started using 7Search on a couple of our new websites.

To give you an idea of our results, I will compare them with a couple others.

To make it simple, on average out of every hundred clicks received we received this many orders.

Google 2
Yahoo 1
Amazon 3
MSN 2
7Search 0

In fact out of the last 2000 clicks we received 0 orders.
To be fair, our average cost per click was less then half the price
I love their admin system for adding keywords.

I can tell that they are tracking their the traffic and it's not fraudulant, but yet it does not convert into orders.

Has anyone had any recent experiences with 7Search?

 

tedster

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 6:27 am on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

watchthis [webmasterworld.com]
Junior Member joined:Mar 28, 2005 posts:194

Yes, its a real person clicking but the question is how poor the sources are?

Well from what I saw traffic came from Coolwebsearch.com which is known for spyware/scumware etc. I also saw traffic that comes from comment spam and forum spam. I found out their partners affiliates from Umax, peakclick and many others do this. Also a some paid to read traffic on this network.
Just because they deny it all. It doesn't mean we should trust their word on it.

This type of traffic will never convert as well as traffic from google, yahoo etc.

tedster

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 6:30 am on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Receptional [webmasterworld.com]
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In fact out of the last 2000 clicks we received 0 orders

I'd check your tracking is right... then trust you tracking.

tedster

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 6:32 am on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

PPC_Idiot [webmasterworld.com]
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In 7search defense what were your results like when your first started your campaigns with google, yahoo, and msn? There is always an optimization period and it is generally longer on smaller engines. I have a lot of experience with tier 2 traffic and there are sources of converting traffic but it generally takes a while properly optimize the campaign to reach those sources of traffic.

tootalldave

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 4:26 pm on Feb 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi tedster,
Thanks for adding back my old post.
I have had good results on average with Yahoo, Google and MSN.
At the same time though i have had some bad experiences with Yahoo and Google.
As an example, Google's traffic seemed to have a lot of crap mixed in for a couple months just before they went public.
Yahoo, really I'm not to sure of right now.

But now that we're talking about it, I did recently try Ask and found most of the traffic was the worst I have ever seen, not from Ask searchs, but from their partners.

I'm still open to 7search and would like to learn a few tips on how to make the best of my campaign with them.

Thanks in advance to any tips posted....

bakedbeans12

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 3:03 am on Mar 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think 7search is bad... they use the same tactics as goclick... sure you get dirt cheap traffic but it's all trash traffic that isn't really targeted all that well..

My personal experiance is that my conversions are way worse when using 7search when compared to google, or even traffic from links on other sites.

tootalldave

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3576503 posted 4:51 am on Mar 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

Well,
I guess that would answer my next question about GoClick.
I know GoClick was great along with Findwhat in the year 2001, as I ran a program to count my conversions.

Goclick hit the skids shortly after, I was told a new owner had taken over, the same with Findwhat, new owners.

Oh well,
I guess MSN would be like the new low cost, pay per click.

WebStart

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 12:47 am on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have been in retail on the Internet since 1999 and before PPC was born. I have tried everything, and virtually every PPC. My experience is: quality counts, just as it does in the cookware you buy, the clothes you buy, the furniture you buy. Bargains like this are not bargains. IN PPC, quality is Google. Nothing else compares. Not Yahoo, though I would count it number 2, and MSN is a long way back 3rd, but it's there. Maybe Looksmart, and Ask. But definitely not the third tier stuff. All those 3rd tier others are a waste of time and very definitely a waste of money.
Think about it: when you go to search do you use 7 search, or any of those others, like seeka.com or whaterver? No one else does either.

Problem is that even Google is becoming less effective. There are just too many tire kickers out there clicking on our paid for ads.

BillyS

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Msg#: 3576503 posted 1:08 am on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

You really cannot beat Google, Yahoo and MSN for quality. Every other PPC I tried (and I tried them all) was riddled with fraud. You think you're getting a great deal with 5 cent clicks but before you know it you've spent $100 and haven't gotten a conversion.

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