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Internet Radio Stream that plays in default Android player
Internet Radio Stream that plays in default Android player
drooh




msg:4343412
 3:21 am on Jul 25, 2011 (gmt 0)

Greetings, I am running an internet radio station and we offer a few different ways to listen. One through a flash player, another through winamp/itunes playlist file and another through windows media wax playlist.

I am trying to figure out how to offer a stream that is playable in the default player for android (evo 3d). I've tried creating an m3u file but no luck, I noticed that soma fm can do this and it looks like some 3gp stream or some sdp file. I'm wondering if its possible with my current setup (streaming shoutcast server) to offer a file or playlist type that will stream in the default player?

 

engine




msg:4343999
 11:28 am on Jul 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm wondering if the problem is that it's designed to block playing because of copyright?

Samizdata




msg:4344004
 11:42 am on Jul 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm wondering if its possible with my current setup (streaming shoutcast server)

I wouldn't say it is impossible but when I was setting up something similar I
intercepted Droids and offered them a free 3rd party app (same idea for iPhones).

There is no standardization across media players for audio streams, and it sucks.

...

drooh




msg:4344136
 4:36 pm on Jul 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

I know that the default player in android can play a stream from an rtsp server but I'm not sure how to set that up and if it's similar to shoutcsat/icecast.

I really don't want to have to ask listeners to download anything. Obviously that is the easy route, but it would be nice to have a flash player that auto plays or a link that says click to listen and that opens the default player streaming from rtsp.

In my research I've found that icecast servers streaming aac or aacplus can use a flash player to embed the stream masked as an flv. However, i think it requires something special with the icecast installation because in my test at home I could not get it to work.

engine




msg:4344138
 4:48 pm on Jul 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

drooh, why don't you let users have an app. That's not really a big issue these days.

Samizdata




msg:4344174
 6:42 pm on Jul 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

not really a big issue these days

It may not be a big issue for the tech savvy or committed.

But it is a huge issue for the broadcaster, who wants a simple "click to listen" hyperlink.

It really should be as simple as that, and I have a lot of sympathy with the OP - the average user is far too impatient (or wary) to read instructions, download and install yet another media player, and paste in a URL before they can decide whether they like your stream or not.

The problem is not just with mobile devices, desktops/laptops are almost as bad - some media players require the .m3u extension, some require it to be omitted, some cope either way, some change the requirement between versions. A Flash player can be a good solution for desktops but is useless on mobiles or iDevices.

A default media player that does not support streaming is one thing, but the lack of standardization among those that do is unbelievable.

I started radio broadcasting in 2005 and have always had to offer multiple solutions. With the exception of more recent versions of QuickTime Player, every solution I have implemented for the various media players (those that do actually support streaming) has had one thing in common - a simple hyperlink to the stream using the HTTP protocol - and they can't even harmonize that.

It should be so much easier than it is.

/rant

...

drooh




msg:4344187
 7:07 pm on Jul 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

ipad,iphone,ipod can all play m3u stream by default. THANK YOU!

android can play an rtsp stream in default player, ikes!
android can play a flash embeded player with icecast/aacplus flv enabled (see fastserv website)

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